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Obesity is a disease

Snaps (Elite) posted this on Tuesday, 25th June 2013, 09:09

Well apparently it is now in the USA

The biggest (unintended) impact is liable to be on the rates our colonial friends have to stump up for their health insurance.

So is it or not?

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Pete-MK (Elite Donator) posted this on Tuesday, 25th June 2013, 10:35

I wouldn`t say it`s a disease, but it`s certainly an epidemic



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Miles (Elite Donator) posted this on Tuesday, 25th June 2013, 11:32

I love this quote in the article:
"You might go to the doctor with a twisted ankle or a head cold and be told you need to lose weight, which doesn`t help with the twisted ankle or the head cold," she says.

Surely you`re less likely to twist your ankle if you`re fit and healthy? (Assuming you`re exercising).
Also, I thought it was the case that the healthier you are the better your immune system responds?

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Brooky (Elite) posted this on Tuesday, 25th June 2013, 14:26



Funny you mention about twisting an ankle, I was doing my morning exercising with  a lady who use to be a ballerina, it`s call the Esmonde method  classical stretch, after doing this for a bit more  of a year I just torn my  left knee   on the inner side of it , oh my god!!!! it hurts  but that didn`t stop me, well maybe for two days and  as I continue to do the stretches I  was a bit more careful I did it correctly.  Is true  many Americans are out of shape ( me included), but I think is more working on breaking old habits like smoking,  drinking, it`s the thing call change , people find it hard to change. But we all need a good push in that direction.

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bandicoot (Elite) posted this on Tuesday, 25th June 2013, 21:35

Its the calories that does it......so I have heard.

PS..,....Watched the guy with the 10 ton testicles the other night on TV, and even after the operation to remove said load, he still weighed the equivllent of two adults.

Now that he is mobile again, he will head to the fast food joint

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Si Wooldridge (Reviewer) posted this on Wednesday, 26th June 2013, 06:43

Quote:
Miles says...
I love this quote in the article:
"You might go to the doctor with a twisted ankle or a head cold and be told you need to lose weight, which doesn`t help with the twisted ankle or the head cold," she says.

Surely you`re less likely to twist your ankle if you`re fit and healthy? (Assuming you`re exercising).
Also, I thought it was the case that the healthier you are the better your immune system responds?
You`re missing the point.  Whilst long-term that may well be true, it doesn`t help with the immediate problem.  If everyone could shed pounds/stones at will then that kind of advice, I assume, might help but considering how difficult it can be to shift unwanted weight, that`s no help at all for someone with a twisted ankle or head cold in that moment.

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Robee J Shepherd (undefined) posted this on Wednesday, 26th June 2013, 08:18

We need a picture of Stallone with the words: "OBESITY IS A DISEASE... CELERY IS THE CURE" on it, I think.

But anyway, I'm 5ft11 and the heaviest I've ever been is 10st 3lb, and I can honestly say whilst I have more will-power to avoid snacking on bad foods between meals than some people I know, I don't have that much more will-power. :/

Yes, I'm one of those people everyone hates because they can apparently eat anything they like and it doesn't seem to matter.

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RE: Obesity is a disease

Miles (Elite Donator) posted this on Wednesday, 26th June 2013, 09:36

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Si Wooldridge says...
You`re missing the point. Whilst long-term that may well be true, it doesn`t help with the immediate problem. If everyone could shed pounds/stones at will then that kind of advice, I assume, might help but considering how difficult it can be to shift unwanted weight, that`s no help at all for someone with a twisted ankle or head cold in that moment.
No, I`m not "missing the point".

It`s quite possible that the quote was taken out of context, or was an exert of a longer quote (which may state something similar to my point), but I think it highlights the need for a more drastic approach.

They`ve gone as far as to define obesity as a `disease` - so the medical establishment obviously think it`s a pretty serious issue (one that I`m sure we`ll be facing in the not too distant future). Therefore, something drastic has to be done - i.e. telling everyone who goes to see their doctor with an ailment that they need to be in the `healthy` range of body weight & fat, and repeating that message over and over.

Do you really think it`s that difficult to shed unwanted weight?
I personally believe that we`ve just become lazy and our tastes have adjusted to the sugary / fatty / salty foods that we consume so much of - to the point where we find it incredibly hard to give them up.

I`m just as guilty as the next person of over-indulging and not doing regular exercise, but I`m now well aware of it and also whether I`ve gone too far (I wasn`t so aware 6 years ago).
So there`s a large element of education that needs to take place, whether that`s something that will be successful or not I don`t know. But when you consider the prolific fast food industry in developed countries I find it hard to believe we can really turn it around.

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fluff_n_stuff (Elite Donator) posted this on Wednesday, 26th June 2013, 10:21

RJS - I`m very jealous!  I used to be able to eat what I liked and never put on much weight at all, since having the children and everything else that`s gone on in the last two years, my body has gone on strike and I have put on quite a lot of weight and currently weigh the heaviest I ever have!  If I go to the doctor with a sinus infection (something I have suffered with almost continuously since quitting smoking), headache, twisted ankle or anything else to be perfectly honest, I don`t want a lecture about how to eat more healthily and exercise!

Obesity isn`t an illness IMO, and that sounds to me like it might give people an excuse not to loose weight (I`m not fat, I`m ill therefore I can`t help it and deserve help and so on).  Also, would (as mentioned in the article) doctors then start to blame someone`s "illness" for the patients other problems and potentially miss other complaints/problems that could be resolved regardless of the patients weight?

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MADTheOgster (Elite Donator) posted this on Wednesday, 26th June 2013, 18:12

It`s a loaded question.  but it`s not a disease (imo) 

i`m Allways hungry, i can eat a very large "proper" meal, to the point i feel ill.  & even while feeling ill, i`ll still be hungry & would continue eating if i allowed myself.  i`ve allways been the same way, & it wasnt a problem when i was younger as i have allways had physical jobs plus used to run/play squash/swim/ride bikes etc..  but at the moment i`m 105kg & a shade under 6" & not very happy with myself,  but then thats the catch 22 situation, because when your feeling low, it`s much harder to exercise control both for eating & recreational exercise, because you just stop caring..

It`s still my fault,  no excuses, but also not as simple just saying "get a grip it`s your own fault"  that said, if i ever got to the point where the lady chugging a block of cheese in the above pic,  i would not want to live,  & thats not a judgement it`s just my personal pov.

& of course there is also education combined with upbringing, i know people that take there kids for fast food every single day,  then complain because their kids are overweight, to the point where they blame the kids for it :/Quote:
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Obesity isn`t an illness IMO, and that sounds to me like it might give people an excuse not to loose weight (I`m not fat, I`m ill therefore I can`t help it and deserve help and so on)
much like depression, although i wouldnt call it an excuse, it`s more a case of getting a diagnosis validates it to yourself, then it becomes easier to use it as a crutch rather than actively fighting it. i dont mean that as a negative to the individual, rather it`s another negative added to an already complicated situation.  




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