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Si Wooldridge says...
"I'd rather debate, just without the insults..."
I'm not sure people want a debate, they just want a cathartic release. Do you really think either side is interested in changing it's mind?
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Robee J Shepherd says...
"I'm not sure people want a debate, they just want a cathartic release. Do you really think either side is interested in changing it's mind?"
I'd definitely count myself as on a side but capable of being polite.
There must be a middle ground of people still capable of being persuaded by either side in any future referendum/election.
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Robee J Shepherd says...
"Do you really think either side is interested in changing it's mind?"
Not any more.
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That still leaves the 40% who couldn't be arsed up for grabs by either side.
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Jitendar Canth says...
"That still leaves the 40% who couldn't be arsed up for grabs by either side."
Only if you can get them to register to vote:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/elections/electoralregistration/bulletins/electoralstatisticsforuk/2018
The total number of UK Parliamentary electors in December 2018 was 45,775,800, a decrease of 372,000 (negative 0.8%) from the previous year.
The total number of Parliamentary electors in each of the UK constituent countries and the percentage changes between 2017 and 2018 was:
- England – 38,371,400, a decrease of 0.8%
- Wales – 2,230,100, a decrease of 1.4%
- Scotland – 3,925,800, a decrease of 0.6%
- Northern Ireland – 1,248,400, an increase of 0.5%
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I work with someone who voted leave, who says if they knew now, what they thought they knew then they'd have voted remain. I'm not sure that's the same as opinion being changed through debate though, I think it's just waking up and seeing the incompetence :(
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Jitendar Canth says...
"That still leaves the 40% who couldn't be arsed up for grabs by either side."
If you can get them to join the forum...
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admars says...
" it's just waking up and seeing the incompetence :("
Depends on where you see the incompetence though and we'll have a different view on that depending on where we sit in this debate.
Personally I blame both Theresa May and the EU, but probably May more as she had a responsibility to negotiate to the best of her ability and I don't believe that this has happened whereas the EU are just their usual intransigent selves and can't really be blamed for that.
This is why I'm looking forward to seeing whether Boris can have any effect. I'm not a huge fan, although I like his personality, and never really wanted his as leader/PM but I think we've got to the space now where we at least have to try. It's only a couple of months in reality, and he'll either force the EU into a re-negotiating the deal that no one likes or he won't. At least by Halloween we'll know and there can be no argument he didn't get his chance.
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This item was edited on Wednesday, 3rd July 2019, 10:26
This is good news as I always thought the fine from the EC was disproportionate, glad the Judge agreed:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49048431
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