Page 1 of Thomson 4200, a few questions.

Will the macro disappear perf. the Thomson hack?
Can this player convert NTSC into PAL?
Are the two scart`s fully compatible with RGB-signals?
Will it play The Patriot after hacked into multiregion?
Anything else I should know before I go ahead buying a 4200 and go hack frenzy?

Thanx in advance/Tusen takk

I think u should get your facts straight....
Convert NTSC into PAL??
As far as I know the player sends out a NTSC signal and your TV should be NTSC compatible...
Don`t know about the RGB question.
Haven`t heared of a problem with "The Patriot" yet.
Heared of problems with playing MP3`s and of playing Special DVD`s like "The Abyss" ....

But what the .... do I know?


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Regarding facts,
I live in Norway and the standard over here is PAL, so therefor it would have been OK to know if it will convert NTSC(Sone1) into PAL(Sone2).
At least 50% of the TV-sets will not be able to "swallow" the NTSC-signals.
Regarding The Patriot, I`ve heard that there`s some kind of scrambling/encoding making it impossible to watch on certain region-modified players.
Maybe this goes for "The Abyss" as well?

AFAIK the Thomson 4200 is just a Samsung 611 with a different badge and casing. You may be able to get the "real" Samsung for less, as with Thomson you`re just paying for the name.

Handset hackable (may not work on all versions though, check in the shop before you buy it); the multi-region mode has no problems with RCE discs (The Patriot plays fine with the standard hack). Macrovision can`t be disabled on this model.

I don`t think there`s a problem with the Abyss, that only applied to older Samsung players (x07 and x09 models).

Only one of the SCARTS outputs RGB, I think.

As with all Samsung players, you can set the player to output true PAL 50Hz from NTSC discs, so you can use it with older TVs (more than 10 years old, typically) which "roll" if fed 60Hz.

This produces slight artifacts (jerkiness), however, so you should always use 60Hz (Quasi-PAL or NTSC) mode if your TV supports it.

Also, the machine plays MP3 discs and (S)VCD, and supports CD-R and CD-RW.

Mike

Mike.

Can I ask, how do you know the thompson are the same as the samsung. So if you say they are the same inside so who made that machine then who design it? I can understand why you keep saying the thomson is the samsung why dont you say the samsung is the thomson or unless you saying thomson got a deal with samsung?? Please tell us why you keep saying this

Thanx a lot for your info Mike. Do you know if one can control a Thomson DVD with a Samsung remote, and opposite?
And another thing, the Thomson DVD have two scart`s, the Samsung only one. Do you know any other differences?

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Andy,

The Thomson and Samsung players have the same firmware (the Thomson firmware uses the Samsung numbering scheme, which is a dead giveaway!) and if you take the lids off, you will see they are identical inside.

This sort of thing is very common in consumer electronics. For example, there are a lot of different makes and models of TV, but relatively few chassis on which they are based. Most manufacturers don`t design and build everything from scratch - instead they buy in whatever is available and slap their own logo on the front. Think of it like a PC, where the same motherboard, processor etc. may appear in systems from many different suppliers.

Thomson are one manufacturer who have never designed and built their own DVD players. Their first-generation player, the DTH-1000, was a rebadged Panasonic DVD-A100, while subsequent efforts have been clones of Samsung machines. The casing and fascia may be Thomson, but internally it`s 100% Samsung.

Samsung, by contrast, have designed and manufactured their own players from the outset, beginning with the 905 in 1997 (one of the very first DVD players to hit the shelves) and continuing through to their current fourth-generation models. They come in for a lot of stick, but they`ve done more for DVD hardware than just about any other company, and I think they deserve credit for that.

And no, I don`t work for them ;-)

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Mike

Thanks for your time explaining this, It was very interesting what you had to tell me. It just that I was confuse etc, and now I know what it is all about so thanks mate for explaining :o)

Ah well I just though Thomson make there own and design there own like there TV and Videos.

Can you confirm to me if there VCR are there own design or are they a copy of another brand. Just a matter of interest :o)

Cheers

Thomson`s VCRs are very much their own - and quite unique in certain respects (such as NTSC recording). I suppose with DVD they just weren`t confident enough to go it alone, with it being such a new technology.

Cheers mate,

I did not want to put this on this forum mike but you seem to know alot. Erm do you know of a forum for VCR;s? as I am looking for a new VCR and also I would like it to record Subtitles. Any help on this mike?