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OK how the hell does that work....?

Bought a brand new dishwasher today for £139 a Kenwood well known brand right, but after reading around it not actually made by Kenwood but by Currys? 

So Kenwood let Currys put their name on a dishwasher that probably won`t last 12 months?

How is this allowed to happen, people like me could get duped into buying something they feel is a good brand/buy only to find it`s **** and worth a tenner in scrap?

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A lot of manufacturers have done this for years. It`s the white goods equivelant of Tesco Value. A lot of parts are very generic too. The heating element off our Tricity Bendix cooker is exactly the same as in 5 other `rival` makes

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Grundig are Curries worst now. Great name to great shame.

If you want a bargain then get White Knight. They are actually Bosch.

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If you want a bargain then get White Knight. They are actually Bosch.Um... white knight what are actually Bosch?
Tumble dryers were Philco (cheaper end of the Philips brand) but they were decent dryers.
So much so that the 6lb Zanussi dryer variant a few years back was a WK clone with a different door (and an extra £80 whapped on top for the badge! )

Grundig went into trouble many many years ago and ended up defunct. The name then becomes available for someone to purchase and brand goods as such, hence DSG bought up the Grundig brand and outsourced TV and video production.
If you bought the lower end TVs they were made by budget brands and therefore subject to the same expectations, if you bought the higher end you usually found they were better manufacturers rebranded, I knew of at least two sets made by Philips, one by Hitachi and two Panasonics under the Grundig brand (either that or those sets were made by the same people making the others as the internals were identical)

Just because it is made by a cheaper manufacturer and rebranded does not instantly means it`s a piece of crap, alhough it can do (as we all know!)

If it`s a table top dishwasher then I can see the point in this post, but if it`s a slimline/full size floor standing unit then I wouldn`t have expected a "branded" item for under £180+.

And in my time "back in the day" I don`t even remember Kenwood making large White goods, they had their Small domestic arm (toasters, kettles etc) and their audio arm with some outsourced video products but Ic an`t hinestly say I ever saw even a rebranded Kenwood large white.

Not to say they didn`t exist mind you... ;)
(and don`t forget, might be under £140 but all usual guarantees and rights will still apply ;) )

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We bought our White Knight because it was recommended as being a Bosch. We checked & it is. The parts are the same.
Never ever seen any decent Grundig at any price yet, since Curries took the name.

If it`s a dryer Paull, then unless there was a new agreement in the last few years it wasn`t Bosch mate.
You might find that Bosch dryers are in fact, made by White Knight (as per the Zanussi wee one) but I never knew Bosch to manufacture for others.

On the other hand, most Bosch dishwashers were manufactured by Hotpoint pre-Merloni buying the brand but got no idea if they continued afterwards or not.

To the Grundig stuff, remember I saw literally hundreds of them in my time there so it stands to reason you might have only seen the bad ones. 
That old phrase of "get what you pay for" does come into play though as a £200 telly from a budget manufacturer was never going to outperform a £800 to £900 branded unit but some people still believed it would.

As a bedroom unit or a budget unit til you could afford better they actually weren`t that bad tbh.

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I got a dishwasher in a kitchen set from MFI ten years ago and it was one of their own brands (Diplomat???) . I had the kitchen redone last year and thought we would spash out a bit on a more
upmarket one as the old one was constanly being repaired. So I bought a Smeg one on line so didn`t look inside - Well blow me down if it`s not the same bloody machine.


Also many years ago I bought a Matsui Video player for about £75. For some reason I took it round to my mums house who had just bought a £400 Akai player - turned our to be thesame player and the controls worked for both machines.

Sometimes with DVD players they may look the same but they aren`t entirely. They will have been made by the same manufacturer in China/Taiwan/Wherever, but the parts inside will be based on the price point.

Basically Company A wants a DVD player, Company B will make it for them and provide them with a list of transports, boards, to choose from, which they`ll do on a price/feature basis, etc. So just because they are the same on the outside, they may not be on the inside.

It`s a bit like cars sharing the same chasis, engines, etc, yet are still different cars.


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Also many years ago I bought a Matsui Video player for about £75. For some reason I took it round to my mums house who had just bought a £400 Akai player - turned our to be thesame player and the controls worked for both machines.Also sold as a Grundig at about £150.
They were all EXACTLY the same player but with the odd different firmware option enabled.

The smeg dishwasher... trying to remember who made them as Bosch and Miele were together but I can`t remember for the life of me who made the Smeg stuff... was seriously overpriced for what it was though!!

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We have a Miele washing machine, a Bosch Dishwasher & as a result of information on several sites a White Knight/Bosch tumble drier. Google Bosch/ White Knight most if not all the parts are the same. Belts, legs, motors all the same.