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Eid Mumbarak to everyone.

The month of fasting is at an end - and I missed 4 out of 30.

Normal service will be resumed - full sleep at night and no guilty feelings about eating during the day!.

eid mubarak bhai, missed 1 because i had to travel to bham to help my cousin from kenya enrol to uni. it feels really good knowing i had the discipline to do it, tbh i only did it religiously because my mum has cancer and cant but it`s a very satisfying feeling knowing i can do it, I think I will try every year from now on properly, congrats to you and eid mubarak! :D

ps. rehan, from memory i think u are pakistani? did u celebrate eid on Friday or Saturday? i only ask because i have a few pakistani friends who are celebrating eid today (saturday)

:D I have to ask. Why is there the confusion on the dates? You don`t see people asking what day Christmas is on. I know I could ask my sis but I am lazy.

Dr 42%er


Care in the football community is proved not to work.


It`s not easy being different. It`s not easy being cool....but somehow I manage....

That`s because Christmas is on the same date every year, but people might well have to check a calendar for the date of Easter. Eid changes (is several days earlier each year IIRC) because it depends on the sighting of the full moon. Sunni and Shia Muslims have different opinions on when it should be.




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I celebrated eid on Saturday

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Sunni and Shia Muslims have different opinions on when it should be. Its not as simple as that - some people folow Saudi Arabia and have Eid with them - others like us need to see the moon in the country we are living in.

Thanks for letting me know.

Dr 42%er


Care in the football community is proved not to work.


It`s not easy being different. It`s not easy being cool....but somehow I manage....

some people folow Saudi Arabia and have Eid with them

Rehan,
It`s not a case of `following` this country or that.
Following Saudia Arabia or otherwise.

What is boils down to is that some communities have different views on when EID should start. Even when everything has been agreed, some would rather follow their desires than what is correct. There was agreement in the 80s on what consitutes `the new moon` but that has been ignored by those who wish to be `different` and thus dividing the Muslims even in the UK.

In reality and religiously speaking, there are a few aspects to sighting the new moon.
1) Witness the new-moon
2) Trust is has been seen.

People differ on 1). Do we do it via the naked eye or via a telescope or via calculations.
Those who go via naked eye will not see a `new` moon until the new moon is at least 3 days old (and thus 3 days too late). So, one has to use a telescope to see the new moon for the new moon exists for a few minutes before it disappears. And one needs to know where one is looking, so calculations come in order.

Then once this has been seen ,it is duty bound on other Muslims to TRUST this observation.

So, what should happen is that the entire Muslim world should seek out the moon on any night. If ANY (and I mean ANY) Muslim country spots the moon then it is duty bound for other Muslim countries to accept the sighting and do EID within 24 hours of the siting.

That is the ideal condition. And if Saudia Arabia is privilaged to be in a position to `see` the new moon 1st then so be it.

But alas, since each and every Muslim country is divided along religious and ethinc lines then even if one Muslim country has sighted the moon then another country will reject it and say "the moons not sighted until we have seen it".

For Gods sake, there is ONLY ONE MOON and if it has been sighted ANYWHERE then thats it. YOu don`t wait until you have seen it.

If Saudia Arabia has sighted the moon, and is in a privilaged position to see it first then then all Muslims should trust the sighting and do EID asap. Even if you disagree, do it for the sake of UNITY.

But some Muslim `hate` the arabs so even if the arabs sighted the moon they want to be `different` and do it on another day. And yet these Muslims go Mecca and trust the day of Hajj.

Some claim if a certain Mosque goes by Saudia Arabia sighting then we can go by the sighting in Pakistan.

Some claim if other countries have seen the moon, we defer until we have seen it on our land.

This is all claptrap. People need to read what is FACT.

FACT is,
Look for the moon.
If it has been sighted in ANY country then trust the sighting and do EID asap.

That is the ruling.

In the UK we have had 3 EIDS.
Can you believe this. 3 EIDS in the UK.

One on Friday - based upon TRUSTING what Saudia Arabia had said, that they sighted the moon on Thursday night. This is the one I did.

One on Saturday, when the `British` Muslims saw the new Moon for themselves (despite Saudia Arabia telling them they saw it the night before). So they deferred the EID by 1 day because they did not trust what Saudia Arabia had seen and waited illegally to see the new moon for themselves.

One on Sunday when some Pakistani Muslims (in the UK) decided to follow the EID day of Pakistan, deferring EID for 2 whole days.

Has ANYONE heard of 3 Christmans days.

No wonder Muslims are a laughing stock around the world.
RANT OVER...
>:( >:( >:(

Eid Mubarak to all Muslims.
I missed 4 out of the 29 due to illness.

Remember, there are the optional 6 fasts in the month of Shawwal (this month) that are highly recommneded.

Sultan

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Has ANYONE heard of 3 Christmans days. Would we get more presents? I`m all for it.

Dr 42%er


Care in the football community is proved not to work.


It`s not easy being different. It`s not easy being cool....but somehow I manage....

Wow.

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Has ANYONE heard of 3 Christmans days.

Err... yes. Depending on the church/country, Christmas can be celebrated on December 25th, January 6th, or January 7th. Making 3 different days. Nobody knows the date Jesus was born - it most likely was autumn rather than the middle of winter - so other than December 25th being the date of a pre-existing Pagan festival there is no date that is more right than the others to celebrate it.


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No wonder Muslims are a laughing stock around the world.

Because they`re really really pedantic and go off on huge rants because they disagree with 10 words a fellow Muslim said....?





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So, what should happen is that the entire Muslim world should seek out the moon on any night. If ANY (and I mean ANY) Muslim country spots the moon then it is duty bound for other Muslim countries to accept the sighting and do EID within 24 hours of the siting.

There is a Hadith (saying or action of the Prophet Mohammad)
A man was living a few hundred miles away from Medina - where Mohammad was living. He sighted the moon so knew that the next day was eid. He got on his horse - rode all night and finally got to Medina. He goes upto Mohammad and says Eid Mumbarak. Mohammad says it is not Eid here as we did not sight the moon - our Eid is tommorrow as we should be able to see the moon then. You should have celebrated Eid at home when you sighted it.

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And if Saudia Arabia is privilaged to be in a position to `see` the new moon 1st then so be it.

Well South America were first
See here


This shows that the moon was visible from South America first

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For Gods sake, there is ONLY ONE MOON and if it has been sighted ANYWHERE then thats it. YOu don`t wait until you have seen it.
As the website and image above shows the new moon is on different days in different countries - for the same reason that when there is a lunar/solar eclipse it can only be seen from 1 or 2 countries and not the whole world.

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No wonder Muslims are a laughing stock around the world. There are more seroius reasons for that - that have nothing to do with religion but people twisting other peoples beliefs.