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RCE and why bother getting a multiregion player?

The Torch (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Saturday, 7th October 2000, 15:49

what with all the rumours about RCE (Regional Code Enhancement) and the possiblity that the R1 discs will no longer be able to be played on a multiregion player, it begs the question: why bother purchasing a multiregion player?
I ask this ? because im on the verge of purchasing a multiregion LG3350E player from techtronics (when they`re back in stock). I`ve already purchased my first R1 disc (T2 UE) with the hope of buying many more newer titles in the future. I recieved an email from techtronics about RCE and this is what they had to say:
quote
"Unfortunatley we are not really able to comment until our engineers
actually see a disc with RCE on it. From the sounds of it (all hearsay), ANY multiregion or code free player MAY be affected regardless of whether it has auto or manual region selection.
Our engineers will of course be delving into the depths on this once they
have a copy of a RCE disc. Until we have some definite facts and have done some testing, we are not able to comment."
the future is begining to look very bleak for multiregion players :-(
any comments will be appriciated :-)

RE: RCE and why bother getting a multiregion player?

nelley (Elite) posted this on Saturday, 7th October 2000, 16:41

If rce does happen 70% of the machines in the uk wouild not be able to
play it.This wouild seriosly affect dvd software sales for a disc encoded
with rce.Wouild you cough up another £300-500 for a player just to play
a particular disc.
nilesh

RE: RCE and why bother getting a multiregion player?

The Torch (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Saturday, 7th October 2000, 16:56

nope :(
since this rumour has sparked up, it has hampered my decision to buy a multiregion player (as i`ve only got one R1disc at the mo), i think i`ll probably go ahead and get a multiregion player, although if RCE discs do start to show up, it will make it harder for the customer (who normally purchase R1 titles), unless they are clearly marked as being RCE encoded. in which case the retailers won`t even bother importing them?
I`d like to hear yer opinions on RCE and how it may affect sales of R1 discs in the UK
bear in mind that a large percentage of R1 sales are attributed with UK sales......
let the rants begin ;-)

RE: RCE and why bother getting a multiregion player?

clayts (Elite) posted this on Saturday, 7th October 2000, 17:23

Suggest you all read www.dvddebate.com - under News for R1 they`ve got their hands on the internal memo that Warner Home Video circuated to their sales staff in the US.

It shoud be starting at the end of October, with Columbia/Tristar following suit.

The really gutting thing is they DON`T intend going public.

I think that back catalogue discs should be okay for a while, but I suspect WHV will exhaust these stocks and re-release them with RCE. It doesn`t bode well.

You may also want to check out a message on the forum (under my message about `A PETITION? Start here`) on the same site where the sender suggests we all write a snotty letter to resuyna[at]moc.renraw so that ALL WHV employees get a copy of it....have you got the courage to do it ?

RE: RCE and why bother getting a multiregion player?

clayts (Elite) posted this on Saturday, 7th October 2000, 17:26

Suggest you all read www.dvddebate.com - under News for R1 they`ve got their hands on the internal memo that Warner Home Video circuated to their sales staff in the US.

It shoud be starting at the end of October, with Columbia/Tristar following suit.

The really gutting thing is they DON`T intend going public.

I think that back catalogue discs should be okay for a while, but I suspect WHV will exhaust these stocks and re-release them with RCE. It doesn`t bode well.

You may also want to check out a message on the forum (under my message about `A PETITION? Start here`) on the same site where the sender suggests we all write a snotty letter to resuyna[at]moc.renraw so that ALL WHV employees get a copy of it....have you got the courage to do it ?

RE: RCE and why bother getting a multiregion player?

The Torch (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Saturday, 7th October 2000, 17:42

quote......."the RCE allows the disc to detect if a hardware player is region specific (as required by the CSS licensing agreement), or if it has been manufactured or altered in the market to be “region free”. If the player is “region free” the RCE will not allow the disc to play the program material. It will instead display a message on the television advising the consumer that the machine is not authorized to play this disc."

surely if the player has manual region changing (as opposed to auto only!) then how will the software know if the player is multiregion?
answer: it won`t, the RCE software will be under the impression that the player is a locked R1 player, wont it? and thusly play the disc...

this is what i think will happen. but until places like techtronics or upgrade heaven get an RCE encoded disc and do some testing, i`m sure everyone will be glued to the forums and other dvd sites waiting to hear what happens (I know I will be).

RE: RCE and why bother getting a multiregion player?

www.switch-it-on.co.uk (Competent) posted this on Saturday, 7th October 2000, 23:03

I thank you all your comments on RCE which i raised a week ago and certain companies said i was talking crap.Thanks again for making an interesting message on this.
Thanks
Michael

RE: RCE and why bother getting a multiregion player?

The Ironduke (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 8th October 2000, 01:19

It`s amazing how much trouble a very small group of Rich arrogant greedy jewish american`s based in California can cause, to satisfy their lust for even more money and power?

If this sound`s racist I do not apologise as what I have said is true, and these people do not consider our feelings.

HITACHI 505 ROCKS!
WARNER SUCK ASS!

Who cares!

Frogmanirs (Competent) posted this on Sunday, 8th October 2000, 20:08

I can set my computer DVD drive to region 1.So who cares about RCE?

RE: Who cares!

The Torch (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Sunday, 8th October 2000, 21:33

so what if u can set your computer dvd rom drive to R1, there is still a posibility that a disc with RCE wont work.
weren`t u reading the rest of the emails?
until tests are caried out on machines which are multiregion (Including dvd rom drives), no one knows if they are going to work!
some people believe that players which manually adjust will still work, but no one knows this for sure!
thats why u should care.
RCE (in theory) will be able to read the firmware that your dvd rom drive is using, and possibly stop the disc from being played all together!

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