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Ebuyer have these for £117.49 and seems good value. Are Premier own brand any good ? What are the dimensions for this (it says slim but nothing else and can not find on google) ? Assume delivery charge is on top of this price.

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=92765&_LOC=UK

Views welcome.

ps Premier are Taiwan based and make cams for some leading brands including Pentax and hp etc apparently.

This item was edited on Thursday, 18th August 2005, 13:33

Nooo! Don`t be seduced by the pixel count - it means almost nothing, except bigger files, and/or more compression. A good 4 or even 3 Mp camera will blow it into the weeds, because what matters is optical and sensor quality. Also, I confidently predict that the Premier (or Concord, Megxon, or any other camera brand you`ve never heard of) will guzzle batteries, take ages to focus and have high noise levels. Probably lots of dead pixels, too.

Similar money will buy the excellent Canon A510, also at eBuyer (www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=9918505315&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=85325) or the HP507, a very neat little camera with adaptive lighting and a Pentax lens, currently at Staples for £99.

HP does outsource camera stuff (usually to Fuji or Pentax) but the `proper` camera makers still do most of theirs in-house. I seriously doubt that Premier makes stuff for Pentax.

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This item was edited on Thursday, 18th August 2005, 23:35

In general you are correct, alterego but what are the dead pixels? The resolution of the camera does not have any bearing on image quality at all - it just specifies how big the printout can be. I do agree that this camera is a budget camera and as it stands it is complete and utter crap, to be totally honest. Ask for a demo and look at the outlines of objects for fringing.

I am not in a hurry to purchase a compact having spent £70 on the Boots Minolta Z10 offer ! What a cam at 3.2mp ! Everybody has commented how impressive it is and prints lovely on the Poundland paper I have (note : light blue packs not the awful orange packs !). I`ll wait and see the offers in the next few months on 8mps.....they will come down with a bump soon.

"what are the dead pixels?"

I mean on the CCD (as opposed to the display LCD). It`s largely a function of quality control - Olympus, Nikon, Canon etc. make sure that the CCD is damn near perfect - the cheapies don`t. I had (briefly) two Vivitar cameras with over 100 dead pixels, which were especially noticeable when photographing dark subjects.

If you want to take decent pictures, a good £100 camera is way better value than a crap £50 one...


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what matters is optical and sensor quality

I regularly use my now ancient 2mp Canon which produces superb A4 prints ( which are the largest I can print anyway ) and for as long as the camera functions have no plans to replace it.


Kywy 8)

After reading up on the megapixal v optics I bought the Canon A75 for £99.95 from boots on line. Camera is brill.

The print quality is very good. (up to A4).

If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything BTTF

Anyone know anything about the Acer CR8530 on ebuyer for £140.It has 8 mega pixels and good reviews.

Isn`t it the same as the Premier but with Acer on the case ? Premier make their cams for loads of other companies .

"Anyone know anything about the Acer CR8530 on ebuyer for £140. It has 8 mega pixels and good reviews."

I agree that the reviews looks good, especially as one guy already has a Canon A95, but I would still prefer something that is a known quantity. It`s very difficult to get an objective review of this sort of thing, as the main sources of such info (Steve`s Digicams, DP review, Megapixel.net etc.) rarely concern themselves with cameras like this. You could argue that the prophesy is self-fulfilling, as Acer could have produced a killer camera, and no-one would know!

Also, unless you`ve some experience with digicams, it`s difficult to know what to expect. Most have some delay when focussing (half-press the shutter) and, bizarrely, even after the shutter is pressed. This can be insignificant, or long enough to drive you mad! Then you have to wait anything from one to several seconds while the picture is processed, and the larger it is, the longer this will be. It also burns up battery power.

The Acer may be a good camera, but there is a lot of competition around the £150 mark, and you may find something with half as many pixels that is a lot more responsive and runs on AA batteries...


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