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Proline 1000 DVD/Grundig 28inch Wide screen surround sound conundrum Help!

GaryThomas (Competent) posted this on Wednesday, 1st November 2000, 22:34

I have gone back to a Proline 1000 after first having a Scan 2000 (Twice!) and a crappy yelo. I have now bought another proline and its superb why I ever got rid of my first proline Ill never Know. My question is this. I have a Prologic 28"wide screen tv Grundig which I have connected up to a set of 100watt speakers. I have then connected the tv to my Proline dvd player using the audio out from the dvd player to Scart on my tv. I have sound coming through my rear speakers which I know in prologic is only in mono. If a disk says it is in 5.1 will the sound still play in surround sound althouh not in digital?. I have been watching the Wall by pink flloyd and this has a niffty little speaker set up on it. When using this i get no sound from my rears when it says rear speakers in the sound test the sound comes from the front speakers only. Yet when watching the film the speakeers are working? I was also watching The world is not enough which the box states that it is in 5.1 I noticed that the sound appears to be mainly from the rears during the music and does not seem to have all the bangs etc from behind that I was expecting. Some of my dvds have both 5.1 and surround sound on the box and these seem to work better. I did have an aiwa prologic amp and this did seem to be much louder from both front and rear speakers. i had to get rid of it though when I got my tv as my missus treatend to kill me if there were any more speakers on the walls, plus the tv is prologic anyway. Am I expecting too much with regards to the sound ? When watching tv only the speakers work a treat with all the bangs wizzys and bongs imaginable from all around so what am i doing with my dvd player. Is the world is not enough not prologic or am I using a wrong title to test the performance of the player? I have set the controls on my proline to pcm should I change this setting to the other audio setting this is the one similar to the following shape )(

Sorry for harping on but I do want to get the best from my system and I have no money left now to do anything else!!! Try and help plessssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeee.

RE: Proline 1000 DVD/Grundig 28inch Wide screen surround sound conundrum Help!

;-David (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Thursday, 2nd November 2000, 01:51

For what it`s worth !

The symbol you describe is like the Dolby logo, it is like two D`s back to back. Must be worth trying it out. PCM mode on DVD is often described as CD quality but with a higher data rate.

My understanding is that to get true 5.1 or DTS sound you have to have a decoder built in to the DVD player to drive the speakers directly, or take a coax or optical feed linked to an amp / TV that supports it.
I have an aiwa dolby pro logic hifi linked to my DVD player via nicam video.

The 2 channel sound from DVD player is labeled as down-mixed, which I assume is pro-logic. I get mixed (sorry no pun intended) results but I think in my case it is down more to speaker location (My missus has an aversion to any speakers that are not hidden :-( ). It always sounds better than through mono TV (not difficult really !!). I do have a DVD with the Dolby clip used at the cinema, with the helicopter flying about. I must try to experiment with that sometime. I think it is on Walking with Dinosaurs (good old aunty beeb).

I am sure that it must make some difference according to what is used in the original recording. There must be some sort of test DVD or CD that could be used to test the system end to end against a known source.

I would check :-

Does dvd player support down-mix for 2 channel, and does this need to be set to on somewhere.

What inputs does TV accept. Is pro-logic in an option, and does that have to be enabled somewhere.

This item was edited on Thursday, 2nd November 2000, 01:54

RE: Proline 1000 DVD/Grundig 28inch Wide screen surround sound conundrum Help!

GaryThomas (Competent) posted this on Thursday, 2nd November 2000, 22:51

thanks for the above. the proline has a digital processor built in and has a coaxial thingey that you mention but my tv does not. I have connected the player using the down mix stero (prologic) Still does anyone know wether a dvd stating it has 5.1 will play in prologic or will I have to look for titles showing both 5.1 and surround.

RE: Proline 1000 DVD/Grundig 28inch Wide screen surround sound conundrum Help!

clayts (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 2nd November 2000, 23:02

Gary - you should still get Pro Logic, even if it doesn`t say so. I had a DVD hooked up to a Pro-logic amp and played 5.1 discs on it and it sounded fine, with the rear channel working okay.

Hope this helps.

RE: Proline 1000 DVD/Grundig 28inch Wide screen surround sound conundrum Help!

Jimbo :oÞ (Elite Donator) posted this on Thursday, 2nd November 2000, 23:02

All of my Dolby 5.1 discs play in pro logic quite happily.
I think Dolby Digital discs have both, as the Dolby Pro-Logic track is embedded in the standard stereo speaker tracks.

To explain a bit better, Dolby Pro-Logic can be transmitted over the NICAM system from a tv station, but I dont believe that 5.1 or Dolby Digital can.

Oh, and will someone PLeeeeeeeeeeeeese help with my Pioneer Macrovision problem? :o(

This item was edited on Thursday, 2nd November 2000, 23:03

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