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It`s very unlikely, but fans of The Terminator are trying to get some new scenes shot, and other cut scenes edited back into T3 Rise of the Machines. Basically they want to fix the film so that it is on par with the previous two installments.

I signed the petition anyway, and thought some of you may be interested. I read about it on AICN, and there`s some more info and links on there if anybody is interested. :D

I signed as well. I hope this will be done so that the film will be as good as possible.

It will never happen, it`s just too expensive.

But f*** it, I signed it.

I was wondering whether any future writers of any future Terminator films, will decide to send an older Kyle Reese back in time, in an attempt to close the causality loop. Since the end of the future war has now been delayed by several years, from the original 2029 date, if an older Kyle Reese is sent back, then all the films, especially the first film, would depict events from an alternative reality.

I think it depends on the model of time travel which they are using. There are two main models of time travel that I have seen: the single universe model, and the multiple universe model.

The single universe model has one universe, with one timeline in existence. When you travel backwards in time and change something, you change the timeline to a new timeline. In this model you can not kill your grandfather, before he has fathered your father or mother, since this would cause a paradox. There are also causality loops, although sometimes cause does not follow effect.

In the multiple universe model, there are an infinite number of parallel universes, so when you travel backwards in time, you travel to an alternate universe. Since you come from an alternate universe you can kill your grandfather, since he is from an alternate universe. You can also create an army of yourself, by sending yourself back in time several times.

I once saw this movie where this team of people went back in time to stop some event happening, but failed, so they went back in time again to just before they had originally gone back. They then told themselves not to bother with the original plan, and then teamed up with themselves to save the day. I can not remember what happened in the end, and if there were any Timecop style rules about like matter not being allowed to occupy the same space.

If the multiple universe model is used, then the younger Kyle Reese from 2029 has already been sent back in time, and so there is no need to send the older Kyle Reese back in time again.

However, if the single universe model is used, then Kyle Reese is predestined to be sent back in time, so a new timeline would be created, when the older Kyle Reese is sent back from the later time. Thus all the films would depict events that occurred in an alternate timeline, which could have happened differently in the new timeline. Therefore there might be a need to further update T3.5, based on the butterfly effect caused by an older Kyle Reese traveling back in time.

Erm.......OK :/

I`m too old for this sh*t!

okay i got lost on that 2 and follow the xmen comics continuity! :p

I wish directors/studios would just leave their f***ing films alone! >:(


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Rik, read the petition. This is nothing to do with the filmmakers!

lol! :D

This time its the fans trying to make the director/studio alter the film!

Regardless of who it is...leave the bloody thing alone!


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