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RE: What`s with the

Well, since I was called out in this thread, I guess I feel compelled to respond...

WACCOE said:
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It`s because of these reason I refuse to challenge gremlins with immense strength, having the high strength Gremlins that challenge me use HIT HARDER (SpitChokeandDrool & Franny are two good examples - I never refuse but won`t challenge back any more) doesn`t help either.

The fight in question happened two days ago -- my grem, SpitChokenDrool, was ranked 24th and WACCOE`s vcvdfwnmvhxbzfd was ranked 16th. Spit had 5595 total points -- WACCOE`s had 7647. My strength advantage was 2401 to 135 -- he held stamina (1500 to 3081) and dex (1000 to 3683).

On this day, we used our ten challenges -- mine were used on gremlins ranked numbers 4, 9, 10, 12, 14, 16, 17, 18, 20, and 26 (I was 24) -- WACCOE challenged grems ranked #8, 12, 17, 20, 21, 26, 27, 28, 29, and 30 (he was #16). I chose my opponents because I thought I could beat them all -- and I tried to beat them all -- I`m sure WACCOE used the same strategy -- difference is -- a high-strength grem CAN beat someone higher in the ranks -- a high-stam/dex grem ususually cannot -- so I picked mostly those above me -- he picked those most below him.

So, this brings us to the issue of why I would possibly have the nerve to use HIT HARDER against his poor, defenseless gremlin which was ranked 8 places higher than my own and had 1652 more points than mine did.

The fight is here...

When selecting my challenges, I naturally check the odds to see how my stats hold up to the other stats -- and naturally, I normally choose an opponent whom I have favorable odds against -- and choose the tactics that first will give me the best chance of a win -- and then I consider the number of points I can gain in the match -- if a different tactic can result in more points, I may choose it instead of the one with the best odds.

Many wily veterans in this game have realized that the best way to use a high-stam/dex gremlin against a high-strength grem is to use HIT HARDER themselves -- thus maintaining big advantages in stam/dex -- but cutting the strength differential down which then results in not getting punched quite so hard. I use HIT HARDER on gremlins that can use this tactic effectively on me -- and well, your grem certainly met those characteristics. Don`t believe me?? See this fight.

Turkish Delight/Didyma -- having very similar stats to your own -- used the HIT HARDER tactic against me on the very same day as our fight -- and I used HIT HARDER against him with the exact same stats I had against you -- and guess what -- he held on to win in 20 rounds.

So -- basically what I`m hearing you say is that you won`t challenge us (high strength guys) because we know how to beat you -- yet you haven`t even tried the logical approach to find out how to fight back against us. I`ll tell you -- for certain -- that your grem is more than capable of beating Spit -- even when I use HIT HARDER.

I`ve already had these discussions a few weeks ago when everyone was going off about a few other grems who were refusing challenges -- this Spit`s father, SpitChokenGag, was refused by someone who was ranked something like 10 places above me -- so I joined in the complaint party -- BUT I was told that my complaint was unjustified because of my strength -- forget the fact that the refuser had me by several thousand points -- I wasn`t allowed to complain because I had broke the golden rule and created a gremlin who could FIGHT -- not dance around the ring for 20 rounds to get 34/31 points.

It`s obvious that players like Jan Koldman (Ed) and myself (and a few others) will continue to be the evil ones -- and that`s just fine -- but remember that the challenge button appears on our browser windows too -- and the windows of my other friends/family who also play the game -- and well, between Jan Koldman, myself, and my other friends -- you`ve lost at least five challenges per day already. It`s really silly how a game can be created -- and the masses find one way to do really good at the game (despite the fact that it is incredibly boring) -- and when someone bucks that trend and goes in a different direction -- and has any level of success, they are chastised.

I`ve said it before and I`ll say it again -- it`s really hard for me to look at someone sitting atop the rankings with a losing record -- and having them look down their noses and being afraid to fight someone who has chosen a different approach to the game. A "champion"??? I think not!

Spit!



Oh yeah -- and my hat is off to Big-Boy/The Original Fake for not only taking the title of strongest grem ever away from SpitChokenGag in less than a month -- but also in amassing an amazing W/L record in doing so.

RE: In Bruce`s Footsteps...

In fact, thanks to everyone`s acceptance of my challenges -- and two challenges by others -- I am now within shouting distance of the "highest" strength ever...

Gelo3................Tazzles.......6000...2752.....400...530...327...203
SpitChokenGag..BeepBeep...5935...3150.....500...391...237...154

This item was edited on Thursday, 23rd June 2005, 12:17

RE: In Bruce`s Footsteps...

Yes -- I was talking about my ranking for "highest strength" value -- and I did, in fact, move into 4th all-time.

RE: In Bruce`s Footsteps...

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but when you have Strength: 5683 against my Strength: 218 why click "hit harder" even with the rest of my stats being decent, and your dexterity being 500 against mine of 4800. there is no way on this earth i could get anywhere near your strength.

um, because I barely beat you in the 18th round (you closed with a minus 248 ) -- without the 50 extra points that my "hit harder" gave me, my three hits could have had 248 less damage points and you would have won the last two rounds and thus the fight.

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if you know this why are you surprised that you aren`t getting many challenges?

This isn`t about me GETTING challenges -- it`s just a statement of my lack of understanding of the sportsmanship involved in refusing the challenge of someone lower than you in the standings. I know why I get few/no challenges -- it didn`t start this bad until after I passed 5K strength and no one wants to challenge someone that may knock them out quickly. If anyone would care to look at a few of my matches, I also use `conserve energy` to lower my strength for the lower tier of the ten challenges I make -- that makes for a longer fight and more points for me.

My point, sarah, is simply that both Nuffie and Pathetic Weakling could have easily gone 18 rounds with their extreme advantage in dexterity -- you got 28 points from my challenge and it didn`t cost you anything -- it was my challenge. If 248 damage points had been shaved off my 3 punches, you`d have received 34 points for the match and 10 points for the win -- so 28 with a loss or 44 with a win -- both of them got ZERO -- and I wasted two challenges on grems with higher overall stats (by a pretty good margin) than myself.

My reference to "not getting too many fights" was not intended to say that NO ONE with high strength gets fights -- I have 383 myself -- but most of those came in my 20+ match days before I became dominant. If not for family feeling sorry for me, I`d be getting 10 or less (with the refusals) a day.

Coincidentally, the match that you were so gracious to accept from me did move me up another spot -- past one of unc`s grems -- to #4. Thanks! (sincerely)

I just think that it is humorous that people go off on guys like Bruce who refuse challenges from those above them in the standings -- everyone has certainly been rattling his cage -- then I speak out about TWO grems who are superior overall to my own, and the tables are turned into ME being the one who is unreasonable. I`m playing the game just like everyone else -- just using a different strategy that the vast majority of players -- and for me, I don`t want to sit on top until I can say that I, at least, will accept the challenges of those below me.

Spit

This item was edited on Thursday, 23rd June 2005, 07:10

RE: In Bruce`s Footsteps...

Those who return the challenge are few and far between, "I Hate", and one knows that when he goes for strength over the standard dex/stam combo that nearly everyone else uses. It just REALLY seems silly to me that with strength being one of the three attributes that someone can use to try and succeed at this game, that when someone starts using it successfully, others start refusing their challenges. Pathetic Weakling has also joined the refusal club -- as sarah k pointed out, I am nearly 35 times stronger than these grems (pretty easy when they have added nothing or very little to their strength all along) -- but they also ALL have more total points than I and are definitely above me in the standings. My hat is off to all those of you who ACCEPT my challenges -- I typically only get 10 fights per day because of my disease (aka strength) -- and heck, I`ve lost four times in the last two days. Best of luck to those who stand in the ring and allow those who sing a different tune to enjoy this game too -- the true champions are those who BEAT all those below them in the standings -- not the ones who run from those they`re scared of!! Again, silly to me when there is NOTHING to lose when accepting a challenge.

And another point about not returning the challenge -- it can work both ways as well -- those who refused will not receive anymore challenges -- from me or the other members of my family playing the GAME.

As to "I Hate"`s comment...
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"but would assume the reason someone with such a stats difference as the original poster is only in it for the quick win."

I have to say -- no, quite the contrary -- I challenge ONLY those who have enough stamina to withstand a few hits -- and hopefully even can take me at least to the 18th round or even beat me in 20. I was in pursuit of the `strongest ever` crown -- but my strategy failed here at the end -- I will adjust and see if I can`t top it someday.

I don`t have my stats from the last two days when I challenged, but here`s the comparison from what I am today to what they were when they refused...

Today SpitChokenGag 5659 3150 500 381 227 154 (11579 total)

22/6/2005 pathetic weaklin 55 5002 5862 359 172 187 Refused (12639 total)
21/6/2005 Nuffie 140 6050 4476 383 181 202 Refused (12476 total)

And incidently, I had NEVER challenged Nuffie while they were beneath me in the standings -- Nuffie refused the first and only challenge I made -- pathetic is almost the same story -- I issued the first challenge to that grem the day before and won -- they then refused the next day.

That`s okay -- I`ll just build my next grem like everyone elses` -- and I`ll enjoy watching 20 rounds of 6, 7, and 8 damage punches -- and I`ll hope that I get challenged more than the next guy so I can make it to the top ten! NOT! The strategy will change a bit -- but Spit and his descendents will always be sluggers!!

Spit

RE: In Bruce`s Footsteps...

Yes, I am -- but I`m also quite a bit stronger than any of the gremlins on here -- I can only challenge UP or the fight is over in one or two rounds. Others in my family are taking the standard "build stamina and dexterity" approach -- I decided on the path less travelled. The higher ranked grems actually have a pretty fair record against Spit -- and no one has refused a challenge until now -- guess I`ll just have to use the standard approach on my next grem -- like everyone else!

In Bruce`s Footsteps...

:o :o

PANSY ALERT -- NUFFIN REFUSAL!

:B :$ :o :B :$ :o

Well, I appreciate everyone giving the heads up on Bruce the Bonus and his antics in refusing matches -- but well, I have found someone to join his club -- in fact, I have a nomination for President of Bruce`s Refusal Club...

SpitChokenGag -- the second generation of SpitChokenPuke -- came into the gremlin world with one goal in mind -- to become as strong as humanly possible. Of course, now that Spit is reaching old age and has surpassed the 4500 mark for strength, not too many others challenge him -- he does pack one heck of a wallop! BUT -- seeing as how this wallop occurs -- and wanting to maximize my XP, Spit has (almost exclusively) been making his challenges to those above him in the standings (usually the top ten) -- and I have been REFUSED by pansy gremlin NUFFIN despite the fact that HE is three places ahead of Spit in the standings...

12 (+4) Nuffie Jobs Worth getting on 10778 140 5095 4003 337 154 183

15 (0) SpitChokenGag BeepBeep silver haired 10599 4899 3150 500 352 205 147

Nearly 200 points AHEAD of me in the standings and I get the big R!

Just thought you all should know... ;)

Spitting, Choking, and Gagging until the end!
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