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Si Wooldridge says...
"Oh, no!!! However will we cope?"
Raise my taxes, restrict my healthcare, make me wait hours for border checks, I don't care. Just don't keep my from my stories.
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bandicoot says...
"Yet more scare tactics.
Stay calm and carry on, old chaps "
It's interesting how those with nothing to lose are happy for others to pay a high price.
As I said its all scare tactics, to want to bring in yet another vote on Brexit, which according to conspiracy websites is going to happen anyway, as the powers that be have being trying desperately to find a way out of this Brexit situation, which they never ever thought the unbelievable would happen, when the majority of people voted OUT, which was against their 'so called betters' judgment. Against the wishes of the Government, Ex PM Cameron, top economists, top market experts, and even Ex Pressy Obama was dragged over here to tell us to vote YES.
But hey, we will be lucky if we do get away from Europe's clutches. It ain't finished yet. We could be back in the EU before we even left and likely on worse terms, as they know now that a majority of the UK do not want to be in the EU. We wait and see.
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bandicoot says...
"As I said its all scare tactics"
Have you ever considered that it isn't all scare tactics?
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Robee J Shepherd says...
"Have you ever considered that it isn't all scare tactics?"
"It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear"
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Andrew Bridgen.
Conservative MP and very vocal leave campaigner.
Interviewed on Stephen Nolan's show on 5Live last night
The whole interview is available on iPlayer though you'll have to skip through the three hour show to find it. Much longer than the clip in this article. He hung up during a break and his phone then went to voice mail apparently.
When you consider the length of the campaign and the well over two years since the referendum result to still have this level of stupidity beggars belief.
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We were all told that this deal was going to be "the easiest in history"; “no downsides to Brexit, only a considerable upside”; we were going to "have our cake and eat it"; they apparently "need us more than we need them". The Prosecco makers of Italy and the car makers of Germany were going to be "banging down our door" to secure trade deals when we leave. What actually happened? NOTHING... No-one came begging for deals. Turns out we weren't quite as important as we thought.
So when the leave evangelists realised that they were completely scuppered they came up with this “no deal is better than a bad deal/WTO” ruse. Suddenly the WTO trading rules was the best thing evah! The nasty EU (who have spelled out since the very beginning exactly how they would proceed) wouldn't let us use the best of the clubs facilities without us abiding by the rules and paying our subs – spoilsports! And apparently, all voters knew this when they voted, right? They knew how we would lose banking/insurance passporting rights, JIT deliveries (and with it the car industry), GPS satellite access, Euratom, Open Skies flying rights, European Arrest Warrants, European phone roaming rights, European animal passport rights, no visa travel, loss of freedom of movement, etc, etc, etc...
It's gone from "we will thrive outside of Europe" to "we managed to survive the war didn't we?": We have a minister for stockpiling food and medicines; the M26 and M20 are going to become car parks with portaloos along the hardshoulder. Put it on the side of a bus: “WE'LL PROBABLY BE OK, EVENTUALLY".
Do the electorate have the right to knowingly scupper our economy and make ourselves worse off? Absolutely! But first let us know the full facts about what we are voting for. If we're still crazy enough to vote leave again in a People's Vote, so be it. At least I'll have a bit more time to to flog my house and leave the country before it's worth £2.50
I will finish my annoyed rant with a quote. This is what an impassioned MP said about referendums back in 2002:
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Referendums should be held when the electorate are in the best possible position to make a judgment. They should be held when people can view all the arguments for and against and when those arguments have been rigorously tested. In short, referendums should be held when people know exactly what they are getting. So legislation should be debated by Members of Parliament on the Floor of the House, and then put to the electorate for the voters to judge.
(Me: make a good note of this next bit, it's a right corker...)
We should not ask people to vote on a blank sheet of paper and tell them to trust us to fill in the details afterwards. For referendums to be fair and compatible with our parliamentary process, we need the electors to be as well informed as possible and to know exactly what they are voting for. Referendums need to be treated as an addition to the parliamentary process, not as a
substitute for it.
Oh and by the way, the MP who said this was David Davis.
This item was edited on Monday, 15th October 2018, 13:42
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alfie noakes says...
"Turns out we weren't quite as important as we thought."
And this is exactly why I voted remain. I've always had a habit of looking at the very long picture, and all this 'get out NOW' and 'They'll be begging for our trade' rhetoric just makes me think those who shout that uninformed drivel weren't the types to pay attention at school
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Also, 'Get out NOW' just might have to wait another 2 years-ish
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According to Robert Peston the count for the march today is 570,000
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