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Moral/Ethical Question

Batavia (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 28th July 2005, 15:14

A "friend" (cough) asks, is it morally or ethically OK to download music via Kazaa Lite, etc? That is, free.
The music my "friend" (cough) is downloading is impossible to buy anywhere in the world. They are old gay dance classics circa seventies and eighties ("friend" tells me) and now no longer available on record or CD other than downloading (lending?) as freebies.
Morally/ethically OK in your opinion?
Morals and ethics worry my "friend" (cough).
Nick and Co there?

This item was edited on Thursday, 28th July 2005, 16:19

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Blue John (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 28th July 2005, 15:16

I think that if they are commercially unavailble then you `friend` (cough) should go for it!

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RE: Moral/Ethical Question

bikergrows (Competent) posted this on Thursday, 28th July 2005, 15:18

And I think that it may be prudent to suggest that "your friend" does something about that nasty cough!

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RE: Moral/Ethical Question

NoveltyCondomHead (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 28th July 2005, 15:21

The funny thing is - is that they can only "do you" if you are sharing music. So downloading is OK (though still considered illegal), uploading music is sharing and this is where they are fining people.

Download for sure, upload DON`T DO IT.

You could try thses sites and pay a small amount.....

www.allofmp3.com
www.mp3search.ru

Both are based in Russia and are a legal grey area over here (according to the Daily Telegraph) they may have your music (as they tend to have a lot of weird stuff).




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RE: Moral/Ethical Question

Batavia (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 28th July 2005, 15:26

Seems the tickle at the back of the throat is catching. ;)

RE: Moral/Ethical Question

jeffthegun (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 28th July 2005, 15:40

Tell your `friend` that my `friend` said that morally, yeah, its wrong to download music for free from P2P sites. But my friend also said thats its really hard to give a s***........

Funnily enough I was talking about this with one of my friends (no, seriously) who runs a small record label (Technique Recordings, fact fans, get on the net and buy some vinyl) and he says that 12" sales have been hit pretty hard by p2p but, conversely, their music is getting to more people and more are turning out when they DJ because more people have heard of them. Bit of a double edged sword, but i think they would prefer the record sales.

I think if you genuinely cant get it elsewhere, I wouldnt worrry about it. Even if you can get it elsewhere, I wouldnt worry about it......



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Batavia (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 28th July 2005, 15:50

Thanks all for replies.
Remembering my "friend" with the tickly throat ( ;) ) is also religious so has to struggle religiously and philosophically with issues at many a turn. Some mightn`t agree , but that is the way it is.
I think, from reading the above, my friend would conclude that it is morally and ethically incorrect to download if the music was easily/readily/available in the shops, but morally and ethically OK if not available anywhere else (casting aside the legalities, I guess) but via free p2p.
I think I, whoops, my "friend", will have to sit on that one (as it were).
Cough.
Edit: On further reflection it might have to be a moral/ethical bypass as, once again, there is no certain answer. I just remember my "friend" used to do tape transferring years ago, which was even legally OK, I think, if it was his records.
I think I will just tell my "friend" to go back to contemplating "what is Truth". Hmmm. :/
That should shut him up for a coupla hours.

This item was edited on Thursday, 28th July 2005, 17:06

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Blue John (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 28th July 2005, 16:10

I wonder if your friend has something stuck in his throat ;)

Cheers

Si



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RE: Moral/Ethical Question

Batavia (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 28th July 2005, 16:12

I think he wishes. :)
That is another moral/ethical question. :/

RE: Moral/Ethical Question

Blue John (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 28th July 2005, 16:51

Heh heh :)

Yes, with your `friend` being a practicing Christian, I bet it is :/ :)

Cheers

Si



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